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Sounds like... 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 11:48 GMT

TV and film need an email equivalent to the 555 phone number!

When in doubt RTFM 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 12:15 GMT

Boffin

http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt

Chunkylover53@example.com would have worked fine :-P

Mmm.... 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 12:24 GMT

Joke

...Trojans...

..mmm...

*dribbles*

(apologies)

Steven R

an email address is for life... 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 12:25 GMT

...not just for a brief bit of fun in the wake of an episode. Register one with care, my children, lest it come back as the sock-puppet of an evil regime!

Badger badger badger 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 12:32 GMT

One Simpsons episode had Lisa looking at www.WhatBadgersEat.com - which used to work. I've just looked now though and it's giving me an error message. More internet nastiness or just a lapsed domain?

...or 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 12:38 GMT

people not to add fictitious characters to their buddy lists!

Re: Sounds like... 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 12:49 GMT

Easy - just register any domain you want to use (peanuts) and never set it up for email. Anyone sad enough to send email to it will just get a "does not exist" page, and you can re-direct the site to the promotional site for whatever your film is, assuming it's not a viral marketing campaign in the first place.

D'oh? 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 12:52 GMT

555 phone number? What you talkin' about? There ain't no such thing.

RE: Sounds like... 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 13:01 GMT

I think it's clownpenis.fart

@ steve 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 13:03 GMT

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bob@aol.com has always worked for me! ;)

Cue Nelson 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 13:05 GMT

Happy

Ha Ha!

RE: Sounds like... 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 13:13 GMT

(Written by Reg staff.)

Ewww.

@Jel Mist 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 13:26 GMT

Boffin

I think you'll find that all America TV shows and films have a telephone number with 555 in them precisely because those numbers do not exist. Otherwise you'd get some poor granny getting loads of phone calls because some nut saw a telephone number on CSI and decided to try calling it.

Who wouldn't 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 14:02 GMT

Happy

Sorry but even i would open and E-mail from Homer Simpson.

@ NoOnions 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 14:11 GMT

Go

Actually, not ALL shows use the 555 number method.

24 producers actually put a real phone number in their show on several occasions. If you dialed the number you got to speak to someone who worked on the show (writers/directors etc).

I believe other shows/films have done similar things too.

The fact that one of the guys who worked on the Simpsons episode actually registered the email address and responded to it shows that they had a similar idea in mind.

re 555 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 14:53 GMT

'Bruce Almighty' had a call from God on a non-555 number. The guy who actually has that phone number has not been entirely amused.

@ AC -

Sending email to a non-existent address/domain does not bring up a web page. You (eventually, probably) get a response from a mail server daemon informing you that it couldn't be delivered.

Re. 555 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 15:00 GMT

It's a bit more complex than 555 being a fictional area code.

Only 555-0100 to 555-0199 are reserved for film and television use. The remainder of the 555-xxxx can be used; IIRC 555-1212 is local directory enquiries throughout the US.

There were plans a while back for 555-xxxx to be used for getting hold of local franchises - so 555-APPL might get you the nearest Apple store to your present location, but AFAIK this has not become common.

Now another question - why have British companies never followed the Americans and used handy mnemonics for their telephone numbers?

Orly? 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 15:42 GMT

"Now another question - why have British companies never followed the Americans and used handy mnemonics for their telephone numbers?"

Do British phones not have the alphabet above the individual digits? Or is it no one takes advantage of that feature across the pond, leaving everyone puzzling why there are a bunch of @!#%!* useless letters on their phone...

No actual hacking required 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 15:48 GMT

Spoofing the "from" field of an e-mail hardly counts as hacking, Shirley?

867-5309/Jenny 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 16:09 GMT

Need I say more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/867-5309/Jenny

@Peyton 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 16:12 GMT

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British phones do indeed have the alphabet next to the digits, but I don't think anyone had a use for it until text messaging came along - to answer your 2nd question, I distinctly remember, aged about 11, [to quote] "puzzling why there are a bunch of @!#%!* useless letters on their phone"!

letters on phones 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 16:44 GMT

Boffin

In Arabic-speaking countries, the phones all have Arabic letters above the numbers. This caused me no end of trouble when I lived in one and wanted to call a US number that was given only in (Latin alphabet) letters.

When touch tone phones first came out, the phone company discovered it had to reassign people whose numbers corresponded to well-known simple tunes, like "Mary had a Little Lamb". So if you wanted to put a number in a film or TV show that wouldn't bother "granny," but wasn't 555-xxxx either, you could use one of those.

-Chris

@Jel Mist 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 17:47 GMT

Yes they do. My mobile ends 555-xxxx.

@Mike Richards 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 18:54 GMT

Not quite an answer, but phone numbers used to given as something like TIDeway XXXX, ie 843 XXXX

@Peyton 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 18:56 GMT

We've never thought "Why the useless letters?" as, if I recall correctly we (in the UK) have pretty much always had them on phones (fixed or mobile)... they've always just been a 'part' of a phone.

On UK mobiles (as in Europe too) the letters haven't been useless for many, many years now as text messaging took off in a big way far earlier than in the States.

Re: 555 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 19:08 GMT

Go

"Now another question - why have British companies never followed the Americans and used handy mnemonics for their telephone numbers?"

You mean like Samsung warranty service?

0845 SAMSUNG (7267864)

Simon

Letters in phone numbers 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 20:05 GMT

pretty common in NZ..... especially for 0800 (toll free) numbers.

Re: 555 

Posted Monday 14th July 2008 20:06 GMT

"Now another question - why have British companies never followed the Americans and used handy mnemonics for their telephone numbers?"

They have tried with "0800-REVERSE" but even if you look on their homepage then you will find that they have to translate it into numbers again so that people can understand it. so it now just becomes "0800-7383773"

555 Numbers 

Posted Tuesday 15th July 2008 02:44 GMT

The US 555 number was never official, though parts of it are left unused. AKA Klondike numbers, which the Simpsons episodes routinely use.

The Internet has example.net and example.com, both of which are reserved for this sort of thing. A few more interesting ones would be nice.

Australia, BTW, has reserved 7010 and 5550 in all states for fake phone numbers.

Re:@Peyton 

Posted Tuesday 15th July 2008 07:19 GMT

"We've never thought "Why the useless letters?" as, if I recall correctly we (in the UK) have pretty much always had them on phones (fixed or mobile)... they've always just been a 'part' of a phone."

Well speak for yourself, because in the years before mobiles and text messaging I remember looking at the buttons and wondering why there were letters on them as well as numbers. I even tried dialling "names" when I was much younger, usually to either get an unobtainable tone or a slightly miffed person on the other end. And I'm talking about dialing on one of the big old phones with the circular dials.

Of course, if you're in your late teens/early twenties, you will probably barely remember the days before texts.

@ Mike Richards 

Posted Tuesday 15th July 2008 10:18 GMT

Coat

Numbers in London used to be given names like "KENsington 5050" or "WHItehall 1212".

In Birmingham, there still are numbers in ERDington beginning with 373, on the EASt side of town beginning with 327 and (since we mentioned "The Simpsons") around SPRingfield beginning with 777.

In the UK, when a fake number is needed for a film or TV, they tend to use the STD code "01623". (0623 was the old code for Newcastle-upon-Tyne before it was changed to 091 and a 7-digit number.) Other "fake" STD codes (which might be required when placing a long-distance call) include 01532, 01742, 01602, 01533, 01272 and 01743 -- all from areas where new codes and 7-digit numbers were introduced rather than just inserting a "1". Most real exchanges also have blocks of unallocated numbers.

Mine's the anorak with a linesman's handset in the pocket .....

The letter codes on old UK phones were used. 

Posted Tuesday 15th July 2008 10:45 GMT

Here is a nice picture of some bits from an old Phone.

http://www.porticus.org/bell/images/6ta_or_6ua_dial_and_associated_parts.gif

Modern STD dialling codes often match the letter codes on these old phones.

You have to ignore the 01 in the dialling code because this was added fairly recently. Also smaller towns use the dialling code of the nearest larger town.

Here is a big list of dialling codes if you are sad enough to see if this is really true.

http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/section/tci/old_std_list.shtml

So in the olden days, if you wanted to phone someone in Great Yarmouth, you would dial GY xxx. The GY translates into 49. Add the modern 01 prefix to get 0149. There is now a 3 on the end. I assume this last digit is to identify other places with GY/49 codes.

This does not work for all modern codes but most small and medium sized towns have kept their historical dialling codes.

This all goes to prove that there is nothing new under the sun.

Even mobile phone style abbreviations were used by Morse code operators over 100 years ago.

TTFN - Neil.

Reserved phone numbers 

Posted Tuesday 15th July 2008 17:04 GMT

Can't believe nobody's taken the opportunity to mention the fact that thousands of people tried to ring the Doctor's mobile phone number (07700 900461) the other week after it was featured prominently on Doctor Who. Sadly, this only turned out to be a number from another of those reserved ranges of numbers, rather than a cunning publicity stunt...

"555" numbers 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 09:57 GMT

Flame

Erm...

I'm British.

El Reg reaches an international audience.

555 numbers are part of the north American (i.e. Canada and the US) numbering plan.

Steve Evans talks about them as if the world and his wife know what they are, and people are surprised when I reply, "they don't exist". Er, hello? Guess what? Over here in Britain they DON'T exist! Don't sound so surprised. If you're going to use culture- or country-specific references, at least tell the wider audience what the heck you're going on about.

As for 0870 numbers, that's another kettle of fish altogether.

(Cue chorus from across the Atlantic: "WTF is 0870?" Precisely.)

@why not using letters is phone numbers 

Posted Thursday 17th July 2008 11:15 GMT

Joke

COS IT IS A PHONE "NUMBER"!!!!!!

NOT A PHONE LETTER

(we need somting more caps then caps)